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	<title>Comments on: Why I Don&#8217;t Carry or Handle Firearms Anymore</title>
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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;did I tell you I was a practicing drunk at the time?&quot;

It could have been worse Patrick. . . 

You could have been an accomplished drunk, or even a virtuoso drunk! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;did I tell you I was a practicing drunk at the time?&#8221;</p>
<p>It could have been worse Patrick. . . </p>
<p>You could have been an accomplished drunk, or even a virtuoso drunk! <img src='http://celestiallands.org/wayside/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Murfin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Murfin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve been a “peacenik” most of my life, although as a Westerner I grew up around guns and don’t have the semi-official UU allergy to them.  I only carried a fire arm as a weapon very briefly back in my days as an IWW organizer when I was involved in a Downstate Illinois strike where pot shots had been taken at union members homes.  Everyone in the whole region was pretty much armed to the teeth.  I got a cheap Brazilian .38 revolver and carried it in a clip holster on my belt underneath a jacket—even though the temperatures soared to nearly 100 degrees down there.  I even kept it for a while when I got back to Chicago.  More than once I found myself wandering the streets after closing time—did I tell you I was a practicing drunk at the time?—waving the gun around.  A couple of times I fired in the air just to feel what it felt like.  Not good.  I knew it.  Before leaving Chicago for a planned hitch-hiking trip to the west coast, I gave the pistol to a fellow worker.  I’ve not carried or fired one since, although a family heirloom flintlock Pennsylvania long rifle does hang in my living room.

I never had a warrior’s post-traumatic flash backs.  But I do recognize a sudden primal adrenaline surge of rage/fear that can be triggered by odd encounters with real people or even by something I see on TV or even read.  It doesn’t last long, but for some moments I could/would kill without compunction.  Luckily, except as an understandable reaction to a street assault, I have never acted on that flash.  (No, even then I didn’t kill probably only because I didn’t have a weapon.)  My family recognizes the symptoms, although I don’t believe they know what it is.  Referring to may usual slow-as-molasses physical pace, my youngest daughter will sometime catch me suddenly “moving like you butt’s on fire” when I react to some visceral outrage on the TV news.  I pretend not to know what she is talking about .  I hope she never learns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been a “peacenik” most of my life, although as a Westerner I grew up around guns and don’t have the semi-official UU allergy to them.  I only carried a fire arm as a weapon very briefly back in my days as an IWW organizer when I was involved in a Downstate Illinois strike where pot shots had been taken at union members homes.  Everyone in the whole region was pretty much armed to the teeth.  I got a cheap Brazilian .38 revolver and carried it in a clip holster on my belt underneath a jacket—even though the temperatures soared to nearly 100 degrees down there.  I even kept it for a while when I got back to Chicago.  More than once I found myself wandering the streets after closing time—did I tell you I was a practicing drunk at the time?—waving the gun around.  A couple of times I fired in the air just to feel what it felt like.  Not good.  I knew it.  Before leaving Chicago for a planned hitch-hiking trip to the west coast, I gave the pistol to a fellow worker.  I’ve not carried or fired one since, although a family heirloom flintlock Pennsylvania long rifle does hang in my living room.</p>
<p>I never had a warrior’s post-traumatic flash backs.  But I do recognize a sudden primal adrenaline surge of rage/fear that can be triggered by odd encounters with real people or even by something I see on TV or even read.  It doesn’t last long, but for some moments I could/would kill without compunction.  Luckily, except as an understandable reaction to a street assault, I have never acted on that flash.  (No, even then I didn’t kill probably only because I didn’t have a weapon.)  My family recognizes the symptoms, although I don’t believe they know what it is.  Referring to may usual slow-as-molasses physical pace, my youngest daughter will sometime catch me suddenly “moving like you butt’s on fire” when I react to some visceral outrage on the TV news.  I pretend not to know what she is talking about .  I hope she never learns.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
		<link>http://celestiallands.org/wayside/?p=178&#038;cpage=1#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this David. I am &quot;digesting&quot; it. I may have something more to say later but just wanted to let you know that I appreciate you posting this.

Best Regards,

Robin  Edgar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this David. I am &#8220;digesting&#8221; it. I may have something more to say later but just wanted to let you know that I appreciate you posting this.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Robin  Edgar</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing this David.  Your honesty and ability to be, not only present with yourself from moment to moment, but to make that experience palpable for others is a true gift for which I am grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing this David.  Your honesty and ability to be, not only present with yourself from moment to moment, but to make that experience palpable for others is a true gift for which I am grateful.</p>
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		<title>By: while I&#8217;m on a web retreat &#171; Pax Pac</title>
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		<dc:creator>while I&#8217;m on a web retreat &#171; Pax Pac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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